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		<title>By: Red Flags: 11 Signs To Hire a New Web Designer &#124; oDesk.com</title>
		<link>http://briancray.com/2009/04/28/10-signs-professional-web-design/#comment-32348</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Flags: 11 Signs To Hire a New Web Designer &#124; oDesk.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 16:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Recommended Reading on good/bad Web Design: HyQuality.com &#8211; 10 Signs It&#8217;s time for a Web Re-Design BrianCray.com &#8211; 10 Signs of Professional Web Design [...]</description>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://briancray.com/2009/04/28/10-signs-professional-web-design/#comment-31878</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clearly a designer, not a writer:

&quot;My website was never finished&quot; is one of the &quot;10 signs of professional web design&quot;?

Maybe, if you believe that a good website is always a work in progress; but not if your stated reason is that the website was never completed by a $200/project high school kid.  It is ok to build a list of 8 or 9. Really. You aren&#039;t Letterman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clearly a designer, not a writer:</p>
<p>&#8220;My website was never finished&#8221; is one of the &#8220;10 signs of professional web design&#8221;?</p>
<p>Maybe, if you believe that a good website is always a work in progress; but not if your stated reason is that the website was never completed by a $200/project high school kid.  It is ok to build a list of 8 or 9. Really. You aren&#8217;t Letterman.</p>
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		<title>By: parfums</title>
		<link>http://briancray.com/2009/04/28/10-signs-professional-web-design/#comment-31795</link>
		<dc:creator>parfums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Developing a website for any entity - Business, Personal and anything that you want to have a website about is like a baby in the womb... Its all about how you nourish it. The nourishment includes - Looks - typography and images and colors, Content, and lastly Marketing - SEO and SEM. 

Just as you would pamper your kid, you also have to pamper your website every now and then.

What do you ppl think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Developing a website for any entity &#8211; Business, Personal and anything that you want to have a website about is like a baby in the womb&#8230; Its all about how you nourish it. The nourishment includes &#8211; Looks &#8211; typography and images and colors, Content, and lastly Marketing &#8211; SEO and SEM. </p>
<p>Just as you would pamper your kid, you also have to pamper your website every now and then.</p>
<p>What do you ppl think?</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://briancray.com/2009/04/28/10-signs-professional-web-design/#comment-27820</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether Design Firm or Independent Contractor, I feel it is the website designer/developer&#039;s task to balance what the client wants with what will reach their audience and balance SEO best practices with user friendly design and readability. 

It&#039;s important for clients to get to know the designer or the firm they&#039;d like to hire to be sure they have found the right professional to work with their business.

And yes, I agree it&#039;s better to have a professional create a focused piece rather than a volunteer who may not be as invested in the results of their labor. Naturally, as another designer/developer weighing in here, I am biased this way. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether Design Firm or Independent Contractor, I feel it is the website designer/developer&#8217;s task to balance what the client wants with what will reach their audience and balance SEO best practices with user friendly design and readability. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s important for clients to get to know the designer or the firm they&#8217;d like to hire to be sure they have found the right professional to work with their business.</p>
<p>And yes, I agree it&#8217;s better to have a professional create a focused piece rather than a volunteer who may not be as invested in the results of their labor. Naturally, as another designer/developer weighing in here, I am biased this way. <img src='http://briancray.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Creattica Community Linkup - June 2009 &#124; Webreweries.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creattica Community Linkup - June 2009 &#124; Webreweries.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Creattica Community Linkup - June 2009 - Creattica Daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creattica Community Linkup - June 2009 - Creattica Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://briancray.com/2009/04/28/10-signs-professional-web-design/#comment-2233</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 04:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have a few times saved small and medium businesses from getting ripped off from larger development firms. One in particular recently, they had a firm handling design, hosting, domain, email-blasting. I&#039;ve was just disgusted to see what one company in particular was charging!  $50 a year alone to &quot;maintain&quot; the domain, which was, paying $10 a year to the domain registry, pocketing $40 for doing nothing? and hosting/website maintainence $400 a month.. we are talking a garden centre that email blasts a flyer ever week. email blasts now are handled by verticalresponse.com (highly recommend them!)  the site looked totally 1995, so i got them on a server i&#039;ve delt with for over a year and they are $3 a month.  

My point is, just because someone may have a team, has developed for years, doesn&#039;t mean they are professionals.  And most of the time, when you think you&#039;ve found someone really good, it&#039;s always at the &quot;point of no return&quot; when you&#039;ve found out you got the shaft.  When designing for a client, i always insist on $100 dep up front.  to only keep them committed. when a firm comes and asks for 50% upfront..  move on.

And i loved what SAL said about the SEO with designers.. hahaha so true! I myself had to try my luck at SEO.. i learned how to optimize pages, and i have a lot of up to date resources on that, since it always changes. But when it comes to the nitty gritty of SEO work, yes best left to those who have knowledge and PATIENCE for it.  As for programming, well all i can say is, thank god for J-query.. that&#039;s about as close to programming as i&#039;ll ever get; well that and basic php stuff.

But as for professionals again. designing and a designer handling the SEO, what in god&#039;s name would posess a large firm to get away with charging $25,000 for a site all done in flash.. and then the client not knowingly, just paid a fortune for something Search engines can&#039;t read! Ok that can be argued a little, but really, its not going to be as well received as a nice neat site.  And again, thanks to jquery, you can pull off a lot of cool interactivity without flash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have a few times saved small and medium businesses from getting ripped off from larger development firms. One in particular recently, they had a firm handling design, hosting, domain, email-blasting. I&#8217;ve was just disgusted to see what one company in particular was charging!  $50 a year alone to &#8220;maintain&#8221; the domain, which was, paying $10 a year to the domain registry, pocketing $40 for doing nothing? and hosting/website maintainence $400 a month.. we are talking a garden centre that email blasts a flyer ever week. email blasts now are handled by verticalresponse.com (highly recommend them!)  the site looked totally 1995, so i got them on a server i&#8217;ve delt with for over a year and they are $3 a month.  </p>
<p>My point is, just because someone may have a team, has developed for years, doesn&#8217;t mean they are professionals.  And most of the time, when you think you&#8217;ve found someone really good, it&#8217;s always at the &#8220;point of no return&#8221; when you&#8217;ve found out you got the shaft.  When designing for a client, i always insist on $100 dep up front.  to only keep them committed. when a firm comes and asks for 50% upfront..  move on.</p>
<p>And i loved what SAL said about the SEO with designers.. hahaha so true! I myself had to try my luck at SEO.. i learned how to optimize pages, and i have a lot of up to date resources on that, since it always changes. But when it comes to the nitty gritty of SEO work, yes best left to those who have knowledge and PATIENCE for it.  As for programming, well all i can say is, thank god for J-query.. that&#8217;s about as close to programming as i&#8217;ll ever get; well that and basic php stuff.</p>
<p>But as for professionals again. designing and a designer handling the SEO, what in god&#8217;s name would posess a large firm to get away with charging $25,000 for a site all done in flash.. and then the client not knowingly, just paid a fortune for something Search engines can&#8217;t read! Ok that can be argued a little, but really, its not going to be as well received as a nice neat site.  And again, thanks to jquery, you can pull off a lot of cool interactivity without flash</p>
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		<title>By: Kerwin</title>
		<link>http://briancray.com/2009/04/28/10-signs-professional-web-design/#comment-2192</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Not all web designer can write, not all have the time to build links.

But still thank you for a very helpful article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Not all web designer can write, not all have the time to build links.</p>
<p>But still thank you for a very helpful article.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandi Leman</title>
		<link>http://briancray.com/2009/04/28/10-signs-professional-web-design/#comment-2190</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandi Leman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 18:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Brian! I am amazed at how many large firms still hire the CEO&#039;s niece or nephew to be responsible for such a major part of their brand. I&#039;m talking about firms that have healthy advertising budgets, but aren&#039;t aware that (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/23/top-100-advertisers-shifted-1-billion-to-the-web-last-year-at-the-expense-of-tv-and-newspapers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;via Techcrunch&lt;/a&gt;) &quot;The top 100 advertisers in the U.S., who represent 41 percent of total advertising spending, shifted about $1 billion last year from TV and newspapers to the Web. ...these top-tier marketers increased measured internet spending by $1 billion; slashed newspaper spending by $674 million; and cut TV budgets by $406 million.&quot; As web pros, we definitely need to constantly tell this story.

I also agree that creating a professional website usually takes more skills than one person has. That&#039;s why it&#039;s so important for freelancer web pros to hook up with others with complimentary skills. The key is recognizing what you yourself do best &amp; stick to that. Subcontract out the parts of your project, like SEO - let&#039;s say, that would be better handled by another pro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Brian! I am amazed at how many large firms still hire the CEO&#8217;s niece or nephew to be responsible for such a major part of their brand. I&#8217;m talking about firms that have healthy advertising budgets, but aren&#8217;t aware that (<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/23/top-100-advertisers-shifted-1-billion-to-the-web-last-year-at-the-expense-of-tv-and-newspapers/" rel="nofollow">via Techcrunch</a>) &#8220;The top 100 advertisers in the U.S., who represent 41 percent of total advertising spending, shifted about $1 billion last year from TV and newspapers to the Web. &#8230;these top-tier marketers increased measured internet spending by $1 billion; slashed newspaper spending by $674 million; and cut TV budgets by $406 million.&#8221; As web pros, we definitely need to constantly tell this story.</p>
<p>I also agree that creating a professional website usually takes more skills than one person has. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so important for freelancer web pros to hook up with others with complimentary skills. The key is recognizing what you yourself do best &amp; stick to that. Subcontract out the parts of your project, like SEO &#8211; let&#8217;s say, that would be better handled by another pro.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>http://briancray.com/2009/04/28/10-signs-professional-web-design/#comment-1565</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 06:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Easy to read - That’s because professionals understand the subtle art of typography, including spacing letters and lines, choosing the right font, and using optimal line lengths. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

My pet peeves when looking at sites? 

When websites are so busy they are distracting. This one is fine. I am looking for information.  If I want entertainment I might look elsewhere. Unless, of course, the writer is entertaining.

When copy is written about and from the perspective of the website owner instead of the audience. I don&#039;t want too much information on How you will help me, I want to know that you CAN help me first, and that means writing about MY problems and not YOUR credentials.  If I think you can help me, I will then engage a conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Easy to read &#8211; That’s because professionals understand the subtle art of typography, including spacing letters and lines, choosing the right font, and using optimal line lengths. </p></blockquote>
<p>My pet peeves when looking at sites? </p>
<p>When websites are so busy they are distracting. This one is fine. I am looking for information.  If I want entertainment I might look elsewhere. Unless, of course, the writer is entertaining.</p>
<p>When copy is written about and from the perspective of the website owner instead of the audience. I don&#8217;t want too much information on How you will help me, I want to know that you CAN help me first, and that means writing about MY problems and not YOUR credentials.  If I think you can help me, I will then engage a conversation.</p>
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